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The Ripple Effect of Lies: Unveiling 'The Children's Hour' with Toni Lynd and Cast
What happens when a lie spirals out of control and destroys lives? In this episode of "Steps to the Stage," we explore the compelling story behind "The Children's Hour" with director Toni Lynd and cast members Tiffany McMahon, Tracy Lay, and Madison Diaz. Toni offers a deep dive into his creative vision, revealing what motivated her to bring this timeless drama to the stage. As we unpack the narrative, you'll gain insight into how the play resonates in today's era of social media and rapid information spread. Tiffany, Tracy, and Madison share their personal connections to their roles, explaining how this production has been both a professional and emotional journey for them.
Ever wondered how false rumors can alter public perception irreversibly? We tackle this question head-on by discussing the real-world implications of gossip and misinformation, particularly in the current politically charged environment. Our cast members open up about their drive to portray such intense and significant stories, touching on the emotional weight and real-life relevance of their characters. Tiffany's love for dramatic roles that deeply affect audiences, Tracy's empathy as a teacher, and Madison's initial curiosity about her character all contribute to a rich and layered discussion about the power of theatre to reflect and challenge societal norms.
Lastly, we pull back the curtain on the collaborative efforts that bring this powerful story to life. From the intricate character dynamics to the seamless blend of set design and period costumes, the dedication of the entire production team shines through. Special mentions go out to standout performances by Paige Polcene, Mary Reichert, and Kristian Merrill, whose characters add depth and intensity to the play. The episode culminates in highlighting the trust and synergy among the actors and crew, underscoring the emotional and compelling portrayal that makes "The Children's Hour" a must-see. Join us for an episode filled with passion, insights, and the transformative power of theatre.
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And she's a bully and she plays it off so well.
Speaker 2:I believe her she knows it, yeah, and she wears it with pride.
Speaker 3:She's so aware, like a badge of honor.
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Speaker 3:Tiffany McMahon, tracy Lay, madison Diaz.
Speaker 2:Thank you for being here, welcome back.
Speaker 5:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:So, tony, why don't you start off a brief synopsis of the show and sort of what drew you to it and inspired you to take this on as a directorial project?
Speaker 1:Well, it is about two women that are friends and they start a boarding school, and it's actually based on a true story that dates back many years ago.
Speaker 1:And this was written in 1937. And there's this girl who is very upset with the two teachers because they won't let her go to the boat races. So for that she wants to punish them and start spreading lies. And this is what happens when the lies get told over and over, and the reactions of everybody else and how it actually destroys the two women, the school. It's incredible. Why did it draw me? Oh my gosh, look at right now, with all what happens with the lies and social media, and it's just. I think it's a timely story.
Speaker 1:It holds up very well. And drama I really appreciate drama. I know a lot of our patrons really want to see the comedy. We talked about that in play selection. They like comedy, but there has to be drama, and the drama makes us appreciate the comedy and everything else more. So this is one of the reasons it draws me and the trick for me make it real. Make it real. It's not a melodrama, these aren't cartoon characters, these are real people. And how can I make it truthful? And I think they did a fabulous job. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Would you mind delving a bit more into the why now aspect of this. You mentioned sort of social media.
Speaker 1:Yes, because you know how gossip is told and bad news travels faster than good news.
Speaker 1:It just simply does. And how do you get out of it? Once people have perceived this is the truth, how do you back off from that? How do you change their minds? How do you do that? And this is a perfect example of how that happens. And look at today I mean right now the political climate. There's a lot of that, there's a lot of that and there's a lot of people that are divided and some believe this, some believe that. And that's what happens when you have somebody spreading lies, and it's a factor that's been around forever and it simply really doesn't go away around forever and it simply it really doesn't go away.
Speaker 2:So fight for the truth. Yes, absolutely. I like what you said, sort of about how once the lies are spoken it can't really be taken back, even once the truth comes out, because there are.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly, it's so. It's so how do you make up for it? How do you do it? And that's what their dilemma is, and that's why this is so important to them that it doesn't. They don't know how to go on with their lives and it's just.
Speaker 1:It's heartbreaking, but it's also very moving and very important because it comes up with strength of character and everything else and, like I said, because they're believable. I think people are going to recognize some of these people. I think they're going to say, oh, I know that, and you? Yeah, they're going to know you.
Speaker 2:Of course, I love what you said about being real, because I think this is a very real show and the stakes are, of course, very real. Yes, why don't we talk about how we make it real with our actors here, tiffany, why don't you answer some of the same questions that I asked Tony about, sort of what drew you to this play?
Speaker 5:Sure, I know, like Tony said, the audiences are asking for comedy and that seems to have been kind of taken more steps forward, more upfront. People are asking for more comedy, theater doing more comedies or doing more musicals, especially coming out of COVID. But for actors, while that's great, dramas for me are what feed my soul. If I can't really go home and on the drive I'm going, oh my gosh, I can't believe I have to say those words or I get to say those words. That's what makes it really important for me. So especially that was one of the things that drove me out here to do August Osage last year. Same thing, that drama, being able to talk about real issues with real people and with this show in particular. This has been on. This show has been a bucket list for me for about 15 years now. There were two other productions I wasn't able to audition for over the last 15 years. So when I saw it was announced last year and that Tony was directing, I was like, yep, I'm driving all the way out to Chino again, I don't care what that takes.
Speaker 5:No-transcript. Classic theater isn't done as often. I love Arthur Miller, but sometimes that tends to be all we do, so we don't do some of the other classic a la contemporary stories. And it is important and I have seven nieces, so for me stepping in and being a part of a story that has to do with girls in particular is a big deal. And you know I was bullied as a kid so like for me I'm like, I get it, I know what it's about. So stepping in and being able to tell different parts of that story and the after effects of it are one of the main reasons that brought me out.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you mentioned Arthur Miller, because we will get into that a little bit later.
Speaker 5:I have thoughts, exactly, exactly, exactly, serious thoughts.
Speaker 1:I love Arthur.
Speaker 5:Miller, I do too, I direct many of Arthur Miller's. I do too, but that tends to. My point is, though, that tends to be. For some people that's like we did. Arthur Miller that's the only drama we have to do there are so many more, and I do think that we need to do Miller all the time, but then we don't just stop there. Yeah, we need more?
Speaker 2:Absolutely, Tracy. Would you mind talking about what brought you to this show?
Speaker 3:Well, actually I had never read the play until about maybe three days before the auditions happened. I had heard of it. My husband actually played Joe Carden in a production of it way back when, and so he knew of it. So I read his copy of it and I was really drawn to it. I'll echo Tiffany in the fact that, as an actor, I'm very much drawn to the drama, and if I can make someone cry in the audience, I have done my job. I like doing that. I love to make people laugh as well. Sometimes comedies are actually a little bit harder.
Speaker 3:I think at times, because what you find funny somebody else may not find funny. But I feel like with drama it can pull anybody into it, and that's our goal here with this one is to draw people into this story. I play a teacher, which is not too much of a stretch for me since I am a teacher, but, having you know, I also have my daughter in it with me, zeleny. So that's been fun. And to have her come along and play with the grownups has also been fun. And she actually it was really her wanting to audition. That kind of pushed me over the edge to go ahead and audition. I was like all right, well, if she's going to audition and I'm driving out here anyway, I'm going to go for it. I'll go ahead and do it. That's so cool, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you will absolutely get tears. I hope so. No, you will.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes you will.
Speaker 4:Yes, madison, would you like to talk about sort of what drew you to this show? So I had never read it, I had never seen it I actually only watched like 10 minutes before the audition. But what drew me to Mary is I thought it would be really fun to play her. She was so evil and not. It was just such like a fun character idea to play and I was like I've got to do this. I saw it on the children's community theater Instagram. I was like they need kids. I might be able to get that. And so I did it and I had a blast.
Speaker 2:Mary is such a fun character. She's so cunning and clever.
Speaker 1:We use fun and she's not fun. She's so fun to play.
Speaker 5:She's fun to play.
Speaker 2:yeah, yes, that's more what I was talking about.
Speaker 1:Fun to play.
Speaker 2:Yes, tiffany, did we get you talking about sort of what drew you to your character?
Speaker 5:Yeah, actually it's funny. Audrey Hepburn played her in the film, which is funny for me because I played Sabrina Fair before, so this is the second time I've gotten to play an Audrey Hepburn character who got transferred for film. But the thing with Karen is that she is, so she has rose-colored glasses on.
Speaker 5:I think through the majority of the show and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But when she's faced to where she has to take them off, she goes from just. I think most people lower their glasses and very carefully, are like let's tiptoe through the tulips and she's kind of takes them off she chucks them against the wall and goes to completely the other side of it.
Speaker 5:Um, which I think when you're in like what would be considered trauma, emotional trauma situation, she just does instinctively. I think instincts come out first and I think that's one of the things that I like about her is that she, once she makes up her mind, she just kind of drops the wall and changes course. It's strong and that's difficult to do. That's kind of the thing that you talk yourself up to do when you're alone.
Speaker 5:Okay, I'm going to walk in the room and I'm going to do this and I'm going to say this, and she doesn't have prep time. Like things happen someone says something and she just goes and goes left, and there's a lot of strength in that which is very interesting to me, to just be able to have such conviction in the decision that you're making right at the moment, and so that's different, especially for me, because I'm kind of like let's carefully walk through and I, you know so, being able to play someone that just kind of goes, nope, here you go, that's it's neat being able to have she's emotionally attached to every single person in the show. She's sort of the one person that has a relationship with every single character. Yeah, which is interesting in itself. I'm not isolated from anybody.
Speaker 2:Sort of what you're talking about leads back into what I was saying with Tony about how things you say that can't be taken back, Because even when the people around you say wholeheartedly, I believe you, I believe you and you're fine, that almost encourages you to push them away even further.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, there's definitely the feeling of the mistrust of humanity for Karen. I think it's. You know. Yes, I believe you. Oh, no, now.
Speaker 1:I don't trust anybody.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and that's kind of what it comes down to the questioning of everybody else. The way to handle that best for her is to protect herself, and everyone else needs to go away.
Speaker 1:We spent three hours, one night, character development. Everybody just talked about their character and the character arc, what was their purpose in the show. It was fascinating. I thought that was one of the best rehearsals ever, because everybody got to own what it is, that their intention was and how they had to come out, and so we had discussions. I mean, what is to be left? What is the message? What is? You know, every character has one, so it was important that we established that, and for Karen it was definitely she's the audience, she's got the hope and that's what we needed. So she has to play that hope, and so we can all go on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that character study was very, very helpful, I think, because you know Tony would ask us, you know, write out a history of your character. And so you had to reflect back on that, like what is martha's relationship to karen before this point in their lives? And it was interesting because I started, I read mine and then tiffany read hers and we had very similar uh backgrounds for the relationship between the two and uh I also had to write. I wrote about the relationship that martha has with her aunt and why is that such a contentious relationship?
Speaker 3:and so it was really interesting and I think it definitely helped, because I have that in the back of my head when we're doing the scenes. I've got this, you know, made up history.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's really and it's really helped, yeah yeah, where there was an exercise we did similar to that in school once we had to write out a character, is like from light, from birth till death, right like the entire timeline, just to completely get like the full scope of their, their worldview. Yeah, so yeah, would you mind talking a little bit more about this one rehearsal session where you got deeper into the character?
Speaker 1:Well, it was really interesting to me because I had them do it and then they had to present it to me. So I wanted to say you know, and they don't want to admit some of it, you know they weren't ready to admit all that. But then I said no, no, you have to, you have to go there and you have to be strong. I told Karen you have to be strong, you have to come up with it, because she was thinking, oh, I don't know, I don't know if I no. So we took their history and their development and what it had to do with the show. How did that do that? And for your character, what did it do for you?
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Speaker 4:Photography at fbme slash xneri photos. For me. I had a lot of collaboration with Paige, who plays my grandma, and with Kristen, who plays Joe, because they're the only people related to me, and so I was like, well, I think this should happen, I think that you should only have sons at this, and it was like how do I interact with them, with this fake persona? Because I don't believe that Mary is her true self throughout the entirety of this. I think she's lying every step of the way and pretending to be something she's not. So I have to both put on this character that looks believable but also looks a little fragile that it could fall apart, if that makes sense, yeah, Since she's not being herself at all. So I have to be like okay, I interact with my grandma like this and I interact with the teachers like this and I interact with the students like this, and that was like a thing that I was immediately jotting down. I was like I have ideas and I shared them. It was really fun.
Speaker 3:Yes, we were all sharing, like anytime somebody shares. Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that, you're right.
Speaker 4:And then making connections to you know something somebody said about their character and connecting it to your own character, and it was really really interesting and we were all giving opinions like oh, I think this should happen, oh, I think this should happen, and then it would like go on for like 20 minutes just a tangent we didn't always see eye to eye.
Speaker 5:I was going to say it was interesting because the characters unlike where you do family dramas and they're all related. So I think that while you have opinions about your characters, there's still something in the back of your mind going. But I'm related to this person. There's only few people that are actually related in the show and there were a couple of times I mean it was we got a little hot. We got a little hot and heated about how we felt about each other.
Speaker 5:Um, and I don't even know if tony knows this, but I one of the actresses, came to me after the one rehearsal and was like I hope we're okay, I hope we're like. I was just expressing my opinion, I hope I hope we're okay and I was like, yeah, we're good like it, but hey, I still think this. But that was interesting, we were. It was interesting because you become passionate and then when you don't have a relationship with the person, with the character that you're kind of having a discussion with, you don't have as much protection for that anymore. So the aggression towards it that you feel when you start to live in your character definitely starts coming out more in your defense of your character and your protection of your character.
Speaker 1:I think that I have. I really really did a great job, as usual. But seriously, they're all so willing to challenge themselves, to give that emotional thing this is so many emotions and so many levels and they are not afraid. And they do it. And I say, no, maybe do this. They're willing to try it again. They're willing to do this. You can't ask for more than that from actors. That's why the truth is coming. It's because they are so willing to make this. You can't ask for more than that from actors. That's why the truth is coming. You know, it's because they are so willing to make it real and that there has to be a reason that they're going to go this far, act this or do that. And all of them do that. It's just, it's amazing to me. I actually have cried several times in the rehearsal period. I mean myself. I know what's going to happen, I know what they're supposed to do, but they really wound me. So it's that good, it's that good.
Speaker 2:Any other notable people in the cast that you would like to point out?
Speaker 1:Yes, sorry, paige Paulseen plays the grandma and it's a great role. She has a wonderful role and her righteousness is a theme of the show and she identifies with righteousness and acts upon it. And it's another reason that everything falls apart. People think they're right and they will do things and say things because they believe they're right and it comes from their heart. They believe it, they think they're doing the right thing. But it wounds people and it's not always right, but she plays it very, very well.
Speaker 1:And Aunt Lily, which is played by Mary Reichert, she's a great character. She's an actress and she causes so much trouble, she's so mean to everybody. She only thinks of herself and she does a great job playing that off. And poor Martha Martha has had a terrible relationship with her and tries still to take care of her and do it. She's a pitiful person. So they do great and all the girls they all come through. Every one of them are doing something. And Joseph, the guy that plays Joseph, he is wonderful and he was in Funny Mirrors. Yes, so he is Christian Merrill. He's used to acting on camera. Okay, so I had to get him to be bigger and everything, and he just wants to do it so well and he appreciates direction, he takes it so well. Can we do that again? He says so anyway, actually, I'm so proud of every single one of them. I really believe that we've got a heck of a cast and I think people are going to be blown away. I honestly do, and I you know I wouldn't take full credit, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:It's a cast I feel like I can trust every single person that I'm on the stage with. I don't. My character, martha, doesn't have as much interaction with the girls, just a brief interaction with Mary, so my interaction is mainly with the adults and it feels so right and so comfortable when you're on stage with somebody who you completely trust where you're going with it and the emotion comes out. And sharing the stage with Tiffany is awesome, just the dynamic between the two of us and then the two characters and I just I'm just really proud of the work and I'm proud of this cast and just excited to show it to everyone.
Speaker 3:I love our hard work and what we're doing.
Speaker 2:Even just talking about it now, it all seems very collaborative and very. I can sense the camaraderie between the three of you and even talking about your other cast members, it's very nice.
Speaker 3:It's been good yeah.
Speaker 2:It was interesting when all three of you were talking about your characters, how you sort of realize that all three of them are very much in denial about themselves in many different ways, where of course Martha may make him off a bit more obvious if you sort of know the plot of the show and where it's heading, but sort of to see that in all the other characters and how that's sort of a theme of the show and so I think that's very interesting, yeah, and we all wonder what's going to happen to Mary at the end, and uh we're all theorizing about it, like does she get grounded?
Speaker 4:we had like worse options, but we were like does she get grounded? Does she have to go to boarding school?
Speaker 1:A different boarding school.
Speaker 4:A worse one.
Speaker 5:There might be pads, padded cells, a boarding school, it might be medication-involved, a very specific uniform Possibly.
Speaker 1:That rarely ever comes off, straining in a way, and you know to have her play that, because in fact the grandmother, paige, was saying, no, I think that she's really nice. You know, I think she's really nice. Who are you kidding? You know, maybe you need to believe that for your character.
Speaker 2:I don't think your grandma would say that.
Speaker 1:But this is not the truth. She is not good. She is not good, I'm sorry this is evil, she's evil, and we have to recognize that we really do, because that's why it all happens.
Speaker 4:There's not one thing she does for anyone else, it's all about her this whole time.
Speaker 2:Yes, she wants her way. It's going to be a sick day, like go to school, like it's. That's the, it's really the.
Speaker 4:They just don't want to go to school.
Speaker 1:Exactly I can't go to the boat races.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, I'll teach you to mess with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. And she says that she tells him I can handle my grandmother, I can do this. She's a bully and she plays it off so well. I believe her she knows it.
Speaker 2:She wears it with pride.
Speaker 4:She's so aware. She's so aware of her own evil. She really is. She's so aware of how manipulative she is.
Speaker 3:She's searching out for these ways to manipulate. She manipulates the girls. She manipulates the teachers. She manipulates the teachers. She manipulates her grandmother. It's yeah, and she's so self-aware. And like that's what makes her even scarier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like her superpower in this almost.
Speaker 4:She does what she can do and she uses it for every little thing she wants.
Speaker 2:Yes, she like uses her position as like a little girl to like add legitimacy to her claims. Like her position as a little girl to add legitimacy to her claims.
Speaker 1:It's the mind. How could I have? Done this so good. She's excellent at it.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to see it Me too.
Speaker 1:You briefly mentioned that you're taking credit for everything that we've talked about. I have guided them and I have encouraged them and challenged them and I love them and I tell them right away if they don't do well.
Speaker 2:Would you mind giving credit to some of the other people on your production team while we have our time here. No one else.
Speaker 1:Alex Huey is my stage manager and she's done this before and she's great. I worked with Alex years and years ago and so it was fun to get her back. Kylie is doing my lights. Sharon and Jim Ernstberger are doing the set and the set design. They're so wonderful. They really really put it together. I have running the lights. Is Samantha her last name escapes me Samantha. Yes, okay, good, she's running the lights. And then I have a new person, briar Thompson. First time she's here and going to do our lights, so it was good that we recruited some new people.
Speaker 1:Yes, always good In addition to having some of our other people, but always it takes a village it does, and I'm so proud of the fact that all these people are helping and doing such a great job. It really enhances the whole production. It just gives us all security that we're in good hands.
Speaker 2:Would you mind speaking on the set design a little bit, or is it focusing just on the schoolhouse?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the schoolhouse. And then yeah, we're going to turn two parts of it, three parts of it, and it becomes the grandma's house and I'm having blue light and the cast is moving it. We're not going to sit in the dark and do scene changes. I hate that. So we're just going to change those three things and on the other side of it becomes the grandmother's house and the doorway becomes an arch. It's incredible.
Speaker 2:It's so cool. Yeah, that sounds exciting.
Speaker 1:I'm so proud of that, and so they came up with that, because I definitely didn't want to have two elaborate sets that we had to move all the furniture and do all that. There's nothing more boring to me than watching that stuff and everybody's so willing to move stuff and do things. I'm really proud. Everybody's going to play their part, so I'm very pleased. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's working like dogs, Moving the set around and then the Except for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's not.
Speaker 5:I broke my clavicle. It extends even into reality.
Speaker 4:She broke her oh okay, yes, it's almost fine now.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I might have to. Oh wait, no, it hurts so bad, it's almost fine.
Speaker 1:That is. Can you believe it? I mean, here we are, I'm sorry, Miss Tony. I broke my collarbone, but I think I'll be in. I was so scared it. She's a trooper, she's back.
Speaker 2:Did we talk about costumes yet?
Speaker 1:A little bit no.
Speaker 2:And Kathy Miller is just moral oh my god, I love her.
Speaker 1:She's worked with me several times. You just tell her what you want. She's got a book. She puts pictures of everybody in there. She's one of the most wonderful costumers I've ever known. I'm safe with there. She's one of the most wonderful costumers I've ever known and I just I'm safe with her. She will find everybody's. She checks with me to make sure that this is okay, but her ideas are really on spot and she keeps us the period. It's 1937.
Speaker 2:I was about to ask 1937.
Speaker 1:So we have to watch that, you know, and there's always somebody in the audience. That's not 1930s. That's a 1950s dress-up I ever saw. So I really want to be careful about that she does. She's very good. Yeah, she's excellent. Thank you, I'm glad you brought her up. Yeah, I love her.
Speaker 2:Love to make sure everybody gets the credit that they need.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, I do try to tell them all I swear, I do.
Speaker 2:Well, I think. Thank you all four of you for joining me here today. Would you mind you happen to know the opening date for the show? Yes, Would you like to tell us? Yes, I have a card right here. Wow, Performances begin September 13th at 8 pm. You can buy tickets on chinocommunitytheaterorg.
Speaker 1:And that night is a gala.
Speaker 2:Oh yes.
Speaker 1:And that night is a gala and we'll have a nice little gala and some food and stuff after you get to meet the cast. Saturday, on the 14th, is two-for-one, so we can go through the box office to get two-for-one tickets. And on Sunday that is going to be the 15th is going to be a talkback, so we'll have the actors there and the crew to give you a talkback. So that's interesting and the show runs all the way until September 29th, so it's going to be a good run. Please come.
Speaker 2:Yes, please. I'm very excited to see this. I will be very transparent.
Speaker 4:I'll be looking for you.
Speaker 5:Where, where.
Speaker 1:Where. Yes good, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you all, thank you.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
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